MeraPahad Community Of Uttarakhand Lovers

Dear Rawat ji and others Members,

The fight is only for fast development  The concept behind formation of a new state was only the fast development of Uttarakhand hills. Unfortunately, even afater 10 yrs of formaiton of Uttarakhand state nothing such could not happend.

I foresee if the capital is moved to Capital, the development work will take place fast in hill areas.

From: K.S. RAWAT
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:32 AM
To: paurigarhwal@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PGGroup] Distance vs Time ? Uttarakhand development towards what and for whom?

 

Development towards what and for whom? is the moot question, in the present scenario when the pristine environment and the harmony that characterized the way of life of its people is being destroyed.
 
The question that arises is that of accountability. Whose interests are the government is protecting? Powerful interest groups like the hotel and mining industries are buying land from people. People are getting alienated from their environment, from resources like water, forest and land on which they have the first right. The intrinsic value and strength of the region is now being viewed as booty and plundered in the name of development.
 
One poetry speaks of the struggle for 'Jal Jangal Jameen'. In such development, villages are becoming empty. We are losing everything local, our means of self-employment, our rural wisdom, local seeds and the village culture. 

These are the genuine voices from the ground. What they are essentially saying is that yes development is required but in a way that is people-friendly, one that does not alienate its own from the land and resources they have inherited, managed and conserved for themselves and for posterity. There will be countless other ways, which could lead to development sans destruction.

Thanks & Regards,
 
K.S.RAWAT

To: PauriGarhwal@yahoogroups.com
CC: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
From: amankh0127@indiatimes.com
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:49:30 +0530
Subject: [PGGroup] Distance vs Time ?

 
Dear Mehtaji,

I appreciate the projection given by you related to comparative distance between Gairsain and Dehradoon from different parts of Uttarakhand. I am not intend to raise finger on the figure given by you however I feel that important part in comparative statement is missing which is time factor. Every group member would like to know how much time does it takes to reach Gairsain or Dehradoon from different part of Uttarakhand.
I am just giving an illustration to reach Dehradun from Tehri, may take around 3 hours and same day one may be back after accomplishing task . In the case of Hardwar it’s a matter of one hour only whereas Gairsain would take a complete day and similar is the case of other district too.

It shall be appropriate if conclusion is drawn after considering infrastructure facilities , transportation , time, resources, ordeal public may face likewise factors too.,
Regards
RK Semwal

from   Vijay Barthwal <barthwal@gmail.com>

Dear Dabral ji,
 
Nice thought provoking note. May I request you to kindly review the following facts.
 
 
please see the attached link and see worldwide how many capital cities have population exceeding 10 lacs (forget 50 lacs)? In fact planned capital cities like Islamabad and Washington DC has population figure of 8 lacs.
 
http://www.citymayors.com/features/capitals.html
 
The waste generation figure for Highly developed ( and high waste generating countries , given in the link given below) is 500 kg/person/ year i.e 1.5 kg/person/year, we can plan for lower side. In fact waste disposal needs different planning methodology and planned city is always better equipped for the same.
 
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_mun_was_gen-environment-municipal-waste-generation
 
What is per person water requirement? 27 to 200 ltrs/day (check link below) and where this water will go? sewage and underground recharge. In a planned city water recycling is basic requirement. We therefore need very limited makeup water and potable quality water.
http://info.k4health.org/pr/m14/m14chap2_2.shtml
 
 
Regarding carrying capacity of rivers, HP has decided 10% (or is it 15%) continuous water flow during lean season also, therefore  only 15% reduction in power generation should suffice. In this regard Sikkim reducing planned 6000 MW to 1000 MW is not understood. Can you please enlighten which plants are scrapped? In my knowledge none of the planned power projects are scrapped on river Teesta.
 
You may like to review your write up based on these facts  and suggest an out of box solution.
(New Tehri type planned city is certainly not the answer!!!!!  )
 
 
Vijay



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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:31 PM, <jp_dabral@indiatimes.com> wrote:

     

    What is logical is that we should know how a Capital is built. Firstly, it should be planned for a population of 50 lakhs. Anything less will result to a infrastructure collapse especially in the mountains where there is limited scope to expand. I hope we learn from the example of Shimla - congested and cramped. Next Water - If we take a daily consumption of 500 liters of water per person per day which is very conservative compared to what major cities in the world plan, it would mean that we require 2500000000 liters of water per day. Where would the water come from? Drainage, sewage disposal and waste disposal- 80 % of the water requirement goes as sewage.Where will this huge effluent treatment plant be located and what will happen to the disposal mechanism. Solid waste will be about 2 kg.per day per head i.e 100 lakh kgs. everyday.. The actual waste figure might be much higher. Every capital today should have an airport which should be able to accommodate atleast 737 Boeing and equivalent planes. Ideally it should be 747s. Ideally there should be a railway too for cheap transport. Many other provisions for planners can be done but the cost is going to be phenomenal. No emotional response is sustainable. Wherever the capital will be it should be planned keeping the futuristic technologies in mind. Technologies of the 60s and 70s is obsolete. Therefore people who have limited exposure of town planning should not unnecessarily thrust emotional ideas. Make Gairsain the capital only if the infrastructure permits.
    Another example of lack of planning skills in Uttarakhand is the hydro electric projects. The government was planning dams without wasting even an inch of the rivers length. Such faulty planning is regretable.
    River planning is done only after ascertaining the cumulative carrying capacity of the river. In Teesta River 6000 MW power projects were planned but when the carrying capacity of the river was done it was found that only 1000 MW is sustainable. Similar studies should be done in Uttarakhand. Only then should be the dams be allowed to be constructed. I am giving these examples so that lay and emotional comments should not let scientific planning be overwhelmed. My objective to write this mail is only to educate people in the forum in their response to the 'Capital' issue. I want them to think out of the box so that we have a sustainable Capital of which we are proud. Otherwise in a few years we will be facing problems without solutions. That would make us a joke in everyones eyes. Let us avoid that.
    RegardsJP Dabral

अब यह  सवाल पूछा ही नहीं जाना चाहिये कि राजधानी गैरसैंण होनी चाहिये या नहीं। सवाल अब यह होना चाहिये कि राजधानी गैरसैंण आखिर क्यों नहीं? यह बात तमाम राजनेताओं से और उत्तराखण्ड के स्वयंभू ठेकेदारों से भी पूछा जाना चहिये कि आखिर इस विषय पर आप लोगों की शर्मनाक खामोशी क्यों? आखिर आप इस पर कुछ भी बोलने से क्यों कतराते हैं, कोई भी दल हो जो उत्तराखण्ड का असली खैरख्वाह बनने का दम्भ भरता हो, आखिर वह इस प्रदेश की अवधारणा से जुड़े सवाल पर बोलना क्यों नहीं चाहता, क्या स्टैंड है हां या नहीं, कुछ तो बता दो। यदि हां तो क्यों और नहीं तो क्यों, इसे स्पष्ट करना भी तो जरुरी है कि नहीं। अगर तुम हमारे हो तो हमारा दर्द आपको दिखाई क्यों नहीं देता और अगर दिखाई देता है तो डाक्टर होने के बावजूद तुम इसका इलाज क्यों नहीं करने वाले ठैरे फिर?

Gairsen is the dream Capital of Uttarakhand.  Hence no other place except Gairsen should have been the Capital of Uttarakhand. But During these many years, things have changed drastically. We are not in a position to fight vigorously to get Gairsen as Capital of Uttarakhand.So what is the solution? If you take the example of Uttar Pradesh, you will find that Lucknow is the Capital of Uttar Pradesh, Allahabad is the Educational Capital of U.P. and Kanpur is the Commercial Capital of U.P. Likewise Gairsen should lbecome the Summer Capital of Uttarakhand. During British period, Simla used to be the Summer Capital of India. In this era of Internet, SMS and other modes of fast communication, the world has now developed into a village. So the Government should Computeris the whole system. While we have the Right to Information in the Statute, we can access information in our own Home through the Computer. Gairsen will have to be developed in a phased manner to cater to the needs of a Capital. It may take some time, but ultimately Gairsen and the surrounding area will be developed in a big way. I think in the present circumstances, this would be a good solution. (D.N.Barola)

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