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मेरे प्यारे साथियों ददा भुलाओ.. जैसा आप सभी जानते है ..२८ अगस्त २००९ को हम दिल्ली से गैरसैण की यात्रा पर निकले थे . . काफी अच्छा अनुभव रहा और बड़ा ही उत्साह वर्जन यात्रा रही .. जैसा आप सभी जानते है .. गैरसैण राजधानी बनाने पर सभी का अपना अलग - अलग मत है .. लेकिन सच्चाई ये  है की waha  की जनता राजधानी चाहती है तो  ओ सिर्फ गैरसैण है.. पूरा सफ़र बहुत ही अच्छा और यादगार रहा .. दिल्ली से लेकर... गैरसैण तक जिस जिस ने भी हमारी यात्रा को देखा अच्छा और भरपूर समर्थन दिया ... और खास कर की चाखुतिया  और गैरसैण के लोगो ka तो काफी ज्यादा समर्थन रहा ... गैरसैण की जनता ने तो ये थान रखा है की अब गैरसैण को राजधानी बना कर ही दम लिया जायेगा..
बाकि पूरी जानकारी विडियो .. फोटो और करियर guidance camp ki jankari ke साथ मे  आपके  समक्ष कल सूबे १ सितम्बर २००९ को हाजीर  होता हूँ.. अभी कुछ ब्यस्त Hoo और कैमरा भी घर पर ही भुला गया हूँ.. और जो भी पेपर मे आये न्यूज़ है ओ भी मे आपको कल सूबे update करता  हूँ  ..
हर कदम हर घंटे हर दिन हमें कमल दा , पंकज भाई और  संजू के फ़ोन कालो ने हमारा उतसाह वर्जन किया और हर पल पल की खबरों को लिया..  बाकि यात्रा की पूरी रूप रेखा कुछ देर मे या फिर.. कल सूबे आपके समक्ष रखता हूँ..

धन्यवाद..

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सकुशल वापसी के लिए आप सभी का हादिर्क स्वागत है।

आपकी गैरसैण यात्रा विवरण का हमै इन्तजार है।

Devbhoomi,Uttarakhand

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"krautela" <krautela@yahoo.com>

I have been reading a few mails lately on Gairsain and also saw that a group of people are making a journey all the way to Gairsain.

I am of the view that making Gairsain ( or another place in hills) is very important if we want to force our governments to make and implement plans for hill state.

we are today a Mountain State in name only, people in various level of government are working with same Lucknow/ Delhi mentality. They have not bothered to make people's problem as their own. A roadblock somewhere in the hills doesnt make any difference to their daily lives. They still treat a hill posting as "durgam sthal"!! what can be worse when most of our state is considered "durgam sthal" by our own people!!

Dixit report makes a reference in the begining to chosing capital with a right reason and from the technical feasbility standpoint. In my opinion brief of Dixit commission couldnt have been any worse!! Uttarakhand is not looking for a state capital from a technical point alone for making a capital town!! We are looking for a change in mindset for governance!! The very reason why we demanded statehood was to ensure that our Hills were getting neglected ... and in order to change that we needed our beuarocrats and politicians to feel the problems of hills first hand!!

Problem of money or obstales like lack of land, water are not insurmountable. .. What is needed is will to overcome these problems. These are problems not of proposed capital alone but of the whole state and if we cant find a solution for capital city ( with all resources that would be available) how we can even imagine to solve problems of lesser cities/towns/ villages?

Dehradun and all other places in out terai area would continue to flourish like Indore does for MP or similarly other commercial hubs... These places are capable of generating resources on their own and would require right prioritizations by government.

In order to make this Gairsain movement a mass movement like in the times of Uttarakhand Aandolan we need real commitment from ourselves. Lets use all the mediums available to us and see how much momenetum we can create...

on Twitter space lets bring the movement through #uttarakhand & #gairsain ...

I understand that most of e-space/web would be more accessible to bigger cities and people outside uttarakhand but if we are able to connect the masses of uttarakhand from offline world to this online world ... there could be a silent revolution around the corner!!

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"मनोज कुंडलिया" <manoj.kundliya@gmail.com

I want to know where is the need to change capital. And from where the government will arrange the money for the new capital. Anybody Knows how much will be the expense for developing a new capital.
 
I request all please think about development of Uttarakhand and uttarakhandis. Capital can be shifted but not right now. "Ghar mai khane ko kuch hai nahi aur naya ghar banane ka sapna dekh rahe hain."
Politicians needs issues and we people provide them silly issues.
If capital change is so important then atleast we should check our pocket that are we in a position to change capital? are we in a position to afford this financial burden?
 
I think uttarakhand is not in a position of this big change.
 
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

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राजधानी गैरसैंण बनाने को जन आंदोलन शुरू करेंगेSep 01, 01:46 amबताएं
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गोपेश्वर (चमोली)। आंदोलनकारी ताकतों ने एक बार फिर से उत्ताराखंड की स्थायी राजधानी गैरसैंण को लेकर जनांदोलन खड़ा करने का ऐलान किया है। सोमवार को उत्ताराखड संयुक्त संघर्ष समिति, महिला मंच व भाकपा ने स्पष्ट किया कि आगामी दो सितंबर को शहीद दिवस के अवसर पर सभी आंदोलनकारी ताकतें एक मंच पर आकर राजधानी आंदोलन गैरसैंण को लेकर व्यापक स्तर पर रणनीति तैयार करेंगे।

सोमवार को जीएमवीएन के विश्राम गृह में आयोजित पत्रकार वार्ता में उत्ताराखंड संयुक्त संघर्ष समिति के जिलाध्यक्ष भगवती भट्ट ने कहा कि गैरसैंण के लिए पहाड़ के लोगों को दोबारा आंदोलन करना होगा। उन्होंने कहा कि दीक्षित आयोग की रिपोर्ट को राज्य की समूची जनता ने नकार दिया है, जनभावनाओं के अनुरूप ही राजधानी बननी चाहिए। उन्होंने कहा कि राज्य के एक विधायक को छोड़ बाकी किसी के भी आयोग की रिपोर्ट पर टिप्पणी न करना दुर्भाग्यपूर्ण है। उत्ताराखंड महिला मंच की केंद्रीय सदस्य चंद्रकला बिष्ट ने कहा कि पहाड़ वासियों ने अलग राज्य की मांग पहाड़ के विकास के लिए की थी न की अधिकारी नेताओं की सुख सुविधाओं के लिए। ब्लाक प्रमुख अगस्त्यमुनि लक्ष्मी जग्गी ने कहा कि राज्य गठन के करीब एक दशक बीत जाने के बावजूद अभी तक स्थायी राजधानी के मसले पर निर्णय नहीं हो सका, यह बेहद दुर्भाग्यपूर्ण पहलू है।

पत्रकार वार्ता में भाकपा के प्रदेश सह सचिव आनंद सिंह राणा, पूर्व प्रमुख पीतांबरी विष्ट समेत कई लोग मौजूद थे।

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fromGunanand Gairola <gunanandg@hotmail.com>

Dear Mr. Subhash Kandpal and other members involved in this discussion,
 
All of us know that Dehradun was selected to be the capital of Uttarakhand on temporary basis.  The search for creation and development of a suitable place has been on eversince.  All of us also know that the infrastructure of Dehradun is not suitable for a newly created state.  Dehradun has already become over-crowded and polluted.  Talking about money required for bringing up a new capital is not a valid arguement.  The State with the Central help would be able to settle this issue.  Just imagine a new capital with a completely new and well thought of infrastructure would surely made all of us proud of.  We are lucky to be in the lap of natural beauty.  Besides having a huge secretarial complex, the new capital would also be developed for tourism on international standards. Special care needs be taken to avoid dirtying the new capital by illegal encroachment.  The municipality alone will decide about the architecture of private houses.  Fifty years from now and the cost of developing new capital would be recovered.  I have personally not seen much of Garhwal and, therefore, am not aware if Gairisain would be the right choice.  Therefore no comments on this.  But so many learned people have thought on this issue and the their considered choice, void with vested interests, should be superb. Government of India have sufficient funds to give us a new capital.  As a matter of fact after 50 years or so another location should be found out so that the development reaches every part of the Uttarakhand.
 
Regards to all
 
Gunanand Gairola

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From : subhash@tisindia.com

 Dear All,


I already tried to give the answer of all questions raised by various members but unfortunately few of my mails are not approved by the group moderators. Now it seems that group moderators are approving only those mails who are in against of shifting Capital.  Anyway leave this point and coming to main issue. I don’t still understand that you all people are talking about wastage of money. What kinds of money will be wasted? The Indian Government has signed the Nuclear Deal, lots of people were in the support and lots of were against the deal but the Government had signed the deal. Why? Was it needed today? No it is need for future. Along with present we should also think about future. This is true that we will have to bear lots of expenses to shifting the capital from Dehradoon to Gairsain but it will give a fruitful result in coming years. You all people are ignoring this point.
 
If our demand for the State of Uttarakhand Movement Andolnkari What we do not receive state. If our people do not fight for freedom struggle, do we get freedom?
 
If our people dont fight against the cruel British rule, do we receive the Freedom?
 
If our people don't demand for Uttarakhand Rajya, if our people don't march for Uttarakhand Rajya, if our people don't sacrifice their life, do we get the New Uttarakhand State?
 
In the time of freedom struggle if we (our people/freedom fighter) do think that after getting freedom we will have to do lots of thing. We will have to invest lots of money in developing infrastructure, industry, colleges, hospitals, roads..etc then it is better would be better to not receive the freedom.
Do you agree with this kind of thinking?
 
You are saying that Dehradoon is ok for Capital but still Dehradoon is a temporary Capital not permanent and why Dehradoon is still a temporary capital, why it couldn't be permanent after the 10 years of Uttarakhand state formation?
 
My dear friends a tremendous buildling doesn't complete in single day and also without investing money it is not possible to make.
 
We all people take lots of Insurance policy, save their earning in the banks, buy property in decent areas why?, just for secure their future. Along with past we think for our future, we think about our future, so why we don’t think about our villagers?
 
It was not happened that when Dehradoon became a Capital of Uttarakhand and all the things developed there at once or a single day, no, everything has been developed slowly. Development needs time, patience and a proper strategy. So what I am saying that it is totally wrong to think that shifting Capital from Dehradoon to Gairsain is only wasting time & money.
 
But for me the most important thing is that how we easily forget the sacrifice of our Uttarakhand moments freedom fighter. We are denying their ideology, we are questioning about their wisdoms thinking, about their vision.
 
Why I am supporting Gairsain, already put my views in my previous mail and don’t have enough time repeating those things once again.
 
This is my personal thinking.
 
Thanks & Regards
Subhash Kandpal

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fromarun mamgain <arunfeb28@yahoo.co.uk>

Dear Sir,
 
agreed with your vision, but still what difference is going to happen if capital is shifted to gairsain in current scenario. uttranchal is a newly formed state containing lots of liabilities on its shoulders. As far as my opinon is concern development of uttaranchal is priority not the shifting of capital to gairsain at least at this point of time where governamemnt  is not able to provide basic facilities to the people of uttranchal & even our current leadership is not concentrating on development of uttranchal, they are busy in leg pulling.
 
Capital shifting cost will take uttranchal's development atleast 10 years back from where we started our journey, currently govt. should concentrate on development only by providing basic infrastructure , basic facilities, good education & by encourageing tourism, etc which will help in development of our state &  not by diverting precious resources, money , manpower towards all these things , already we have limited resouces for Development.once every thing is on track & govt. has surplus budget then only we should think about all these secondary issues.
 
Our freedam fighters fought for development of uttranchal & demanded seprate statehood so that uttranchal will become a developed state, our people will get good facilities, our children will get good education .. they did not fought to make gairsain as capital of uttranchal. as far as my knowledge is concern ,this issue was raised bycertain regional -political/non ploitical groups not by the freedam fighters of uttranchal.
 
It will be a good move to shift the capital to gairsain once we have a developed uttranchal but atleast not now as on priority basis.
 
Thanks & Regards
 
Arun Mamgain
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The question that shifting capital from DDN to Gairsain will only result in wastage of money which, as they say, can be used for the development of Uttarakhand, is ridiculous.  After all what kind of development we are talking about?  Creating  new infrastructure in and around Gairsain will not be called development? 
One of my friends says "ghar mein khane ko kuch nahee aur naya ghar banane ko soch rahe hain"..  My dear friend, whenever a new State is created, the Central Government makes provision of substantial funds for creating necessary infrastructure including developing the State Capital.  The public has not to pay from their pocket for that.  Now it is the responsibility of the State Government to see that how much funds they can obtain from the Central Government.   

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नैनीताल। राज्य की स्थाई राजधानी गैरसैंण घोषित करने के समर्थन में मंगलवार को विभिन्न आंदोलनकारी संगठनों ने यहां गांधी चौक पर धरना दिया। इस मौके पर आयोजत सभा में वक्ताओं ने सरकारों पर जनभावनाओं को कुचलने का आरोप लगाया गया। आंदोलनकारी संगठनों ने इस मुद्दे पर 2 अक्टूबर को राज्यव्यापी बंद का ऐलान किया है और राज्य स्थापना दिवस गैरसैंण में मनाने की घोषणा की।

मंगलवार को उत्तराखण्ड महिला मंच व उत्तराखंड लोक वाहिनी, बेरोजगार संगठन आदि संगठनों से जुड़े दर्जनों लोग तल्लीताल गांधी चौंक पर एकत्र हुए और धरना दिया। इस मौके पर हुई सभा में वक्ताओं ने भाजपा-कांग्रेस पर सीधा हमला बोला। वक्ताओं ने कहा कि राज्य गठन के नौ साल बाद भी स्थाई राजधानी का मसला हल नहीं हुआ है। जनभावनाओं की अनदेखी कर प्रभावशाली राजनीतिज्ञ व नौकरशाह गैरसैंण को राजधानी बनाने में रोड़ा अटका रहे है। जबकि गैरसैंण जनभावनाओं के अलावा कुमाऊं-गढ़वाल के मध्य स्थित होने के नाते हर लिहाज से राजधानी के लिए उपयुक्त है। वक्ताओं ने कहा कि राजधानी गैरसैंण बनने से राज्य के विकास के रास्ते खुलेंगे और आंदोलकारियों के सपनों के अनुरूप राज्य का विकास हो सकेगा। इस दौरान बताया गया कि गैरसैंण राजधानी बनाने के समर्थन में सभी आंदोलकारी ताकतों के आह्वान पर 2 अक्टूबर को राज्यव्यापी बंद का ऐलान किया गया। इसके अलावा सभी संगठनों द्वारा राज्य स्थापना दिवस 9 नवंबर को गैरसैंण में मनाने का निर्णय लिया गया है।

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Gairsain was already proposed as the capital of Uttrakhand during Uttrakhand movement.nobody was aginst it.

we all want the development of hilly areas of uttrakhand.Plains areas of Utranchal are much developed and

 hills areas are not developing at that Speed.I will not say that development is not being done but still hills areas are developing at

tortoise speed .On the other hand we are investing most of the money on developing plains like Dehradoon.

You will not find all the facilities in any other hills area like dehradoon ,haridwar,UdhamSing hNagar.That is why people are still leaving their natives

even after formation of uttrakhand.Number of people have purchased lands nearby plains.which is obvious becoz they are getting good facilities of transportaion, hospitals, educations etc.But But But  I want all this kind of facilities in Hills. many of you are saying that

Dehradoon should remain the capital becoz it is having all those kind of faclities which Gairsain or any other Hills area doesnt have.

Which is more painful becoz you want to see that place developing which is having some good facilities

and you think it is wastage of money on deveoping Gersain as a new Capital.We want to See most of the areas equally developed as dehradoon.

so why not we should start it from Gairsain.make Make a new beautiful capital.we all will also feel happy if we will see some PAHADI area deveoped and feel proud.

 

I dont feel proud dehradoon as the capital becoz it was already famous and developed much before formation of uttrakhand.

koi apna pahad ka area apni Rajdhani ho.jaha keval apne hi log mile, apni yaha ki  bhasha,boliyo mai baat kare toh koi baat hai na.

Koi aam Goan ka aadmi jaye toh use ye na lage ki vo dusre state mai aa gya hai..anyways ye toh abhi bahut door ki baat hai..pahle aap ek toh ho..

 

aur jab tak koi pahad ka area developed nahi hoga tab tak vaha koi industrialization nahi hoga.jitna jyada koi hills area developed hoga utna hi vaha ke log ke Rozgar ke source increase honge..

 

Just Close your eyes and Imagine your local pahad Areas developed,enough number of transportion, education, hospitals and sorce of employmnt facilities present.good low and order conditions all over there.Number of tourists have come to visit over there.everywhere you see your uttranchali peoples are employed...Feel Good??..I am sure you will feel good..how beautiful dream is it???
but again next moment you will start laughing becoz you think it is impossible.becoz like me you all are well aware about the curruption,politics going on in our beautiful state.But at least we should take one step forward.

ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY.we just need to start a journey,take some intiative and who knows..may be within next 15 or 20 years from today we feel proud on development of our state instead of feeling shame on being a currupt number 1.I am sure if our people want they can make uttrakhand just like switzerland one day and can set an examples for Other states.for that we need dedicated Poltecians and public.

 

So I think we should start it from making a beautiful capital and by this we can pay our tribute to our uttranchali martyrs.And please you people dont associate it with self motive of those who are in favour of Gairsain as capital.I am also from pauri garhwal.
we are not locals of Gairsain but becoz it is a pahadi area and it was already proposed at the time of Uttranchal Andolan.I also have taken part in one or two rallies of UKD andolans when I was only 9 10 years old.so I have some emotional feeling assocated with it.Come what may come ,Money should not come in between in developing any hills area.Money increases with investment..


Be not only logical but Dil logical..

Ravi Negi

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