Dear Gautam,
Dialect is a verbal gesture sans a written script.
While language is a verbal gesture with its own written script.
Kumaoni ,Garhwali, Jaunsari are all uttrakhandi dialects with script in Hindi(Pali).
I dont know how this Uttrakhandi language thing started .
We all are Uttrakhandis speaking either Kum , or garh,or jaun,or punjabi with written text in Hindi.
Please disagree with me.
--- On Sun, 3/22/09, GAUTAM TEWARI <tewari_gautam_del@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: GAUTAM TEWARI <tewari_gautam_del@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] Why Do We Hestitate in Speaking Uttarakhandi Language
To: kumaoni-garhwali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:17 AM
Dear Arvindda,
With all due regards to your knowledge, but I beg to differ to you on this account:
a) The "dialect" becomes a language when more and more people converse in that. You can refer to many of Chinese provinces which either use mandarin/ chinese etc as basic dialect. The same applies to many places in Germany and France.
The point here is that we must learn & converse in our mother tongue even if it is a dialect and should not be ashamed of that.
b) Yes, in case we are addressing to the gathering then the common mode of language to be taken care of or it would definitely lead to "strange" faces as you have rightly conveyed.
With no malice,
kind regards
Gautam Tewari
--- On Tue, 17/3/09, arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: arvind upreti <arvind1965@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Kumauni-Garhwali] Why Do We Hestitate in Speaking Uttarakhandi Language
To: kumaoni-garhwali@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 1:08 PM
BECAUSE,
""""""""There is no uttrakhandi language.""" """"""""" ""
Whatever,we speak is a dialect ,deriving its words from Hindi, Marathi and Nepali bhasha.
While writing it ,it is Devnagri Lipi.
Either it is Kumauni or Garhwali or Jaunsari or Tharu or Buxa or Punjabi or Hindi.
What dialect will a garhwali uttrakhandi from Tehri speak in?
What dialect will a kumaoni uttrakhandi from Okhalkanda speak in?
What dialect will a jaunsari uttrakhandi from Kotdwar speak in?
What dialect will a punjabi uttrakhandi from Rudrapur speak in?
What dialect will a jaat uttrakhandi from Haridwar speak in?
What dialect will a bengali uttrakhandi from mahtosh mor speak in?
What dialect will a tharu/buxa uttrakhandi from Khateema speak in?
Next time when you meet all of these uttrakhandis ,make a choice,how would you like to speak.
I attempted speaking Kumaoni once in a local uttrakhandi function ,and immediately I realised a strange look on the face of some of my Garhwali friends and I discontinued midway and started in Hindi to everybody's comfort.
Maharaj, it is as good as arguing as to why are we posting our mails in English, why
not in hindi ,our mother tongue ?
Same logic, convenience , not complexes.
Arvind
--- On Mon, 3/16/09, mp.mehta . <mp.mehta@sify. com> wrote:
From: mp.mehta . <mp.mehta@sify. com>
Subject: [Kumauni-Garhwali] Why Do We Hestitate in Speaking Uttarakhandi Language
To: kumaoni-garhwali@ yahoogroups. com, PauriGarhwal@ yahoogroups. com, Uttaranchal_ in_USA@yahoogrou ps.com, uttaranchal_ bangalore@ yahoogroups. com, UTTARAKHANDSANGTHAN DELHI@yahoogroup s.com
Cc: uttaranchalwasi@ yahoogroups. com, Extreme_Uttranchal@ yahoogroups. com, members@apnauttarak hand.com, arrogantuttaranchal @yahoogroups. com, uttaranchal_ Newdelhi@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 12:10 PM
Dosto,
As you are aware India is a multi culture and multi language country. However, we have “Unity in Diversity”. Generally, it is seen whenever any Punjabi, Gujrati, Benali, South Indian meet their people they prefer to speak in their own languages but when it is point of Uttarakhandi, this is somewhat not seen amongst us.
Most importantly, in many cities Uttarakhandi culture programmes are held. The programme goes on in our languages (like songs, plays etc) but Anchor and the Chief Guest always speak in Hindi or English. The same is the situation, of our Political Leaders also. They go for canvassing in hill areas and other places but their speeches are in Hindi only. (I am not discouraging of speaking our national language Hindi but we must also teach our new generation our regional language also so that they can take interest towards their culture also).
After all, why do we Uttarakhandi Hesitate in Speaking our own languages. May be the inferior complexity ? (Why ? - We are none to second in any field).
We invite to participate in this debate :-
http://www.merapaha d.com/forum/ books-and- literature- !/why-do- we-hesitate- in-speaking- our-language/
M S Mehta
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PS : Do you encourage / speak with our kids in Uttarakhandi language at home other than English & Hindi ?