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एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 08, 2009, 11:23:20 AM »

Tarun Ji,

I endorse your reviews. I also do not fully make the politicians responsible for regionalism. There are people in our society who always give fan to this issue, which in my opinion not an issue. Whatever slights gaps we have in both sections can be bridged through such programs but unfortunately people here also misusing the plateforms.

Quote from: Tanuj Joshi on July 08, 2009, 10:19:29 AM

Divide and Rule has always been propaganda by the rulers in India for centuries. Politicians always try to reap the best available asset they can afford. Kumaon and Garhwal are two regions with a slight disparity in culture but they both share the similar background of history and evolution. I agree that politicians divide the state for the sake of their constituencies but why should they be able to create a difference in human mind? Are the citizens of Uttarakhand been so mean to believe in such non sense? Our state has given great martyrs when it comes to save India. Kargil war has shown the unity of Indians and we feel proud to be so. Then why do we talk about the difference of thoughts in our state? This is the time when an African nationalist becomes the president of world’s greatest country, An Indian fellow becomes the senator of some other country and at the same time we are arguing about the difference within a small state. I feel this is not the mistake of politicians as they don’t have any right to change the human thoughts, but of we the people of Uttarakhand who bring such thoughts in our mind. It’s the people of a nation who count for it’s growth then why we should neglect our responsibilities and blame natas for everything that happens in a state?

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 08, 2009, 03:05:12 PM »

From: "Pitamber Pant" <pitamber_tmg@rediffmail.com>
To: <members@apnauttarakhand.com>
Date: 8 Jul 2009 08:01:09 -0000
Subject: Re: [Members-MeraPahad] Do you think there is regionalism issue in UK which is obstructing Development ?
Hi,

Khali Dimag, Shaitan ka Ghar!! In the absence of any vision and real development agenda, the administrative machinery has nothing more than spreading gossips. It is the Sarkari Naukars who are responsible for the rumour mongering and not the aam janta.

It is not only Garhwali vs Kumauoni. It is also Brahmin vs Thakur - depending on who is spreading the gossip. The administrative machinery is totally out of sink. I happened to visit the Sales Tax & Excise office in Almora about 3 years back on a Monday morning - start of the week. The boss - incharge of the office had his family in Haldwani and he was only expected in the afternoon. It was a chilly winter morning and the whole office was stinking of booze. And the officials were asking each other - "mausam ban gaya kya" i.e. did you have the drink?

The whole Uttrakhand revolves around the administrative machinery as they are the only opinion makers - administrative machinery means any one in the Govt. The political bosses of course have had their learnings from Bahubalis of UP - as long as you are having your share, anything is justified.

While Supreme Court has said even God can't save India. We believe God would be more active in Uttrakhand and will save us. However, we all need to activate the massses for the change - a real movement at the grass root level.

Kindly use Jai Uttrakhand, Jai Bharat. Uttrakhand can be a model for the rest of the country and it is possible. Incidentally that was also the original Nara.

Dhanyavad,

Pitamber Dutt Pant

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 08, 2009, 08:08:30 PM »

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Dear Sir ,
Garhwali or Kumayuni ke chhakkar me hum log apne maksad main kaamyab nahi hote,or ek dusare me duriyan banate hain,But truth is that only some of the political character person or habitual person are making these type words
as you said we are uttrakhandies first than Garhwali or Kumayuni, we have to united

Regards
Dinesh Bisht

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #63 on:** July 09, 2009, 03:17:46 PM »

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sumansharma · « **Reply #64 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:35:49 PM »

Yes, I agree with that Regionalism is biggest problem in us.

It is existing in new generation ALSO.

I may be wrong, but I observed this problem MORE with the people who belongs to Kumaon region. In garhwal all people says we are Garhwali. But anybody belongs to Kumaon region they says we are Pahadi. I saw, ki, any Garhwali easily wishes to marry with Kumaoni but Kumaoni will think about it many times. I may wrong, but it is my personal experience.

Actually it is a "Garhwal" word who unites us ALL and common in "Pauri Garhwal", Chamoli Garhwal", Tehri Garhwal" and "Kumaon Garhwal". In Himachal people belongs to different places like upper side Kumarsen, Kotgarh, Kaathgarh etc... and also belongs to Una, Mandi, Dharampur etc.. even their costumes and customs are also different but they always tell you k they belongs to HIMACHAL. But we people see each other at a difference.

We devide ourselves, e.g. inn transportation 'GMOU' bus service or 'KMOU' bus service. yahin par difference. Atleast pahle toh yahi chalta tha aajkal i can't say. I hear it from old folk songs and 'ek-dusrey ke baaton se' I went Garhwal 1/2 time, but lots of value for our 'Region'.

हेम पन्त · « **Reply #65 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:55:35 PM »

Suman ji,
You have put your thoughts very honestly.. There were and ARE two regions in Uttarakhand - Kumaon and Garhwal. We think this must be treated as administrative distribution only.

I personally feel we must say we are "UTTARAKHANDI". Garhwal or Kumaon comes after that.

Quote from: sumansharma on July 09, 2009, 04:35:49 PM

In Himachal people belongs to different places like upper side Kumarsen, Kotgarh, Kaathgarh etc... and also belongs to Una, Mandi, Dharampur etc.. even their costumes and customs are also different but they always tell you k they belongs to HIMACHAL.

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 09, 2009, 06:07:41 PM »

Suman Ji,

First wil of all we welcome you on merapahad commuity. Secondly, i would also like to thank u for sharing your exprience and views on this crucial subject.

You have quoted about a particular region of uttarakhnd that people who do not wish to even marriage with each other community. My opinion, there is nothing like that. I have attended many marriages here NCR region of both kumaoni and garwali. In hill areas marriages takes place between brahamans of both the regions. HOwever, i agree in Thakur this is not happeing commonly.

We all need to breack such chains which no base. These misconception of both the regions have been made by orthodox and conservative kinds of people.

Quote from: sumansharma on July 09, 2009, 04:35:49 PM

Yes, I agree with that Regionalism is biggest problem in us.

It is existing in new generation ALSO.

I may be wrong, but I observed this problem MORE with the people who belongs to Kumaon region. In garhwal all people says we are Garhwali. But anybody belongs to Kumaon region they says we are Pahadi. I saw, ki, any Garhwali easily wishes to marry with Kumaoni but Kumaoni will think about it many times. I may wrong, but it is my personal experience.

Actually it is a "Garhwal" word who unites us ALL and common in "Pauri Garhwal", Chamoli Garhwal", Tehri Garhwal" and "Kumaon Garhwal". In Himachal people belongs to different places like upper side Kumarsen, Kotgarh, Kaathgarh etc... and also belongs to Una, Mandi, Dharampur etc.. even their costumes and customs are also different but they always tell you k they belongs to HIMACHAL. But we people see each other at a difference.

We devide ourselves, e.g. inn transportation 'GMOU' bus service or 'KMOU' bus service. yahin par difference. Atleast pahle toh yahi chalta tha aajkal i can't say. I hear it from old folk songs and 'ek-dusrey ke baaton se' I went Garhwal 1/2 time, but lots of value for our 'Region'.

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 24, 2009, 04:59:57 PM »

Lakhera ji,

i endorse your views. However, it is personal experience that regionalism exsits in our state and is deeply rooted.

This needs to be broadly discussed and positive changes are required to be implemented.

Quote from: एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta on July 07, 2009, 04:47:46 PM

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Mehtaji, I really appreciate youre fforts in propogating Uttarakhandi culture. There always will be road blocks. As far as Garhwali or Kumayuni devide is concerned, it can be good if channelised in the positive direction. Afterall, we are community of communities each complimenting and supplementing each other. As long as we are Uttarakhanies first and garhwali or kumayuni afterwards just as as long as we are Indian first and Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or Christian afterward, it hardly matters. It is also good that youngesters do not have such divide . Have not we the problem of Brahmin, Rajput or Schedule cast ? Still we got Uttarakhand. As long as the Chief Minister works for whole of Uttarakhand, where is the question of from which side of devide he comes. Let us all try to improve the bottomlines.
Lakhera

Devbhoomi,Uttarakhand · « **Reply #68 on:** August 19, 2009, 05:53:32 PM »

"छेत्र वाद, वो खतरनाक भूकंप है जो की कुछ ही सेकंड मैं छेत्र का नाश कर देता है"

एम.एस. मेहता /M S Mehta 9910532720 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 21, 2009, 03:27:05 PM »

Bilkul Dev Bhoomi Ji,

Unfortunately, somewhere Uttarakhand has also been facing acing this problem since long, due to which our social development, cultural developments, folk music related etc is also obstructing.

There is need to generate awareness amongst the new generation specially to avoid any notion / perception related to this issue.

Quote from: devbhoomi on August 19, 2009, 05:53:32 PM

"छेत्र वाद, वो खतरनाक भूकंप है जो की कुछ ही सेकंड मैं छेत्र का नाश कर देता है"

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